Don’t hate Trump

There are a lot of people out there who say they “hate” Trump or act in a way which seems to indicate they “hate” Trump. Why?

Sure, he is obnoxious and has an elevated opinion of himself. He opens his mouth and although he hopefully intends to express himself accurately, the careless words come out as absurdities or statements, which IF MEANT, would show serious character flaws. He may be hard to like, but that hardly seems enough justification for “hate”.

It is claimed he holds women in disdain, and if true, that would certainly be a turn-off for women (and many men). But is it true? It is a fact that at least once he said some horribly disrespectful things about women. We know this because it was recorded on camera, wielded by professionals. And oddly enough, it was not presented to us until years later, at a key point in the election cycle. This indicates to me that it was realized at the time to be an unimportant, not uncommon, scenario between male friends, which, sadly, has been duplicated to at least some degree by at least 75% of the men out there. And, to be brutally honest, many women as well. It was strictly presented in a time and manner which indicated it was a weapon, not “truth”. All event is worth, if a rare instance, is a “tsk tsk”, not hate.

Then there were the women who claimed he molested them. Not a word in all the years he was a famous person, and then several all come out right at a critical point in the election? And at least some of the early ones had undeniable ties to the Clinton campaign? You’ll pardon me if I give them no credence. Find me someone who has no ax to grind and a believable reason to keep it secret for so long, and then I’ll consider the possibility that this is a valid charge.

Since much of his alleged disdain for women appears to be unreliable and strictly intended as “weapons” against him in the election cycle, what say we look at the positions he has hired and promoted women into? If you think he “hates” women, you might want to find some actual, verifiable proof of it before “hating” him back.

Ok, he is often accused of being “racist”. Apparently based on statements he has made which are so absurd, they must have been poorly thought out rather then intended. If he really thinks “all Mexicans are rapists”, then yes, he is not only a racist, but insane. If he meant to say “SOME Mexicans are rapists” then he is not necessarily a racist, or even wrong; that statement would have been absolute, provable fact. Again, for the most reliable take on this, look at the people he has interacted with throughout his long public history, and the people he has hired and promoted, before accepting and propagating the charge that he is a “racist”.

Ok, how about his “shady” business practices? How about “avoiding paying any taxes”? As to the latter, I say that if the IRS is satisfied with the taxes he has or has not paid, then it is the height of folly for us to whine about that. I suspect that he has paid every cent he was legally required to, and if you don’t like that amount, whine about the convoluted tax system YOU allowed to be set up, not someone who has the skill to play it to the limit. As to the business practices, I don’t know. My suspicion is that if anyone had a valid beef, they would have prosecuted it through the courts. If he actually did a person wrong (and not just played the game better), than that person and that person only has some justification in “hating” him. Everybody uninvolved? Hearsay is not allowed in a court of law; what say we don’t give it any credence in the court of public opinion.

So what we have so far is a person who can be crass and unpleasant and even greedy, but is unproven to be “evil”. He has some opinions which do not agree with other people’s opinions. So freaking what? If you want to attack one (or more) of his opinions or ACTIONS, proposed or implemented, go for it. Provide some justification that your opinion is better, other than just it is your opinion. And concentrate on the opinion/action and leave personalities out of it. Attacking the person screams that your position so weak, that any sane, intelligent person will dismiss your whole case out of hand.

To be clear, here are the people who I see come out as “hating” Trump:

– People who have been paid or bribed (directly or through their leaders) to display “hate” of Trump

– People who have accepted information about Trump without evaluating the source for bias or verifying the information against other (reliable) sources

– People who unquestionably accept the instructions to “hate” Trump from those people they “worship” (such as Hollywood or sports celebrities or politicians)

– People who put all their eggs in the Clinton basket and thirst for revenge that she lost

– People who have been stealing from the country for years and fear Trump will cut off their loot or power, or even prosecute them

– People who detest Christians and/or the behavioral limitations which Christianity prescribes.

– People who think the country was moving in the right direction and are concerned that progress would be halted or even reversed, but can’t support their opinion with facts and reason (or don’t dare, because if their true agenda were revealed, they would be reviled)

– People who have actually be damaged by Trump (and I list this only as a possibility, because I haven’t seen one yet who isn’t questionable)

Which group do you belong to? Why not belong to the group of people who don’t like one or more things that Trump actually seems to be doing, and present your case against each issue with facts and reason, leaving the personal attacks on the playground?

Or even the group who put up with the personal quirks of the man because he appears to not be another lying politician out to screw us over, and will give him a chance until he actually attempts something intolerable?

In defense of the Donald

I don’t like Donald Trump.  He grates on my nerves.  I doubt I would vote for him even if we agreed on most issues, since I don’t see him as being competent in a political environment.  But I am ashamed of my country and the way they are vilifying him for telling the truth, even if it was done pathetically clumsily..

I was surprised about how hard it was for me to track down what he actually said.  You’d think that it would be everywhere, but all I found were, in articles chiding him, excerpts.  I was afraid that the excerpts might be “slanted” to support the position being slanted.  I finally had to listen to the actual speech and make my own excerpt:

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best.  …  They’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us.  They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.”

As far as I can tell, that is what he actually said which has raised such a fuss.  Poorly stated?  Absolutely.  If you want to make fun at him for the clumsiness of his speech, go for it.  But was he wrong or, gasp, bigoted?  Perhaps not so much.  Let us analyze what he said, not what it is claimed he meant.

Most importantly, the Donald left out a critical word – illegal – which, I think and hope he accidentally left out.  There are two completely different and unrelated classes of immigrants.  Those that come here legally tend to be of benefit to the country and should not be denigrated as a class.  Those who are here illegally have at a minimum, broken at least one law, and tend to not be interested in benefiting the U.S.  Anyone who makes any negative (or even positive) statement about immigrants who does not intend the statement to refer to only one of these classes of immigrant, is very likely to really be bigoted and stupid and deserve any criticism they get.

“When Mexico sends its people” is an odd way to start out.  There is evidence that Mexico does, or at least did, SUPPORT or even encourage Mexican citizens coming to the U.S. illegally.  They would tend to be in favor of it, as having Mexican citizens living in the U.S. increases the access the Mexican government has to the land and resources of this country, not to mention, reducing THEIR requirements to deal with those they perceive as being of negative impact.  Sort of a “stealth invasion” to reduce their problems and increase ours.  Although I can see why the Mexican government would consider sending people here, I don’t see any evidence that they are ACTIVELY sending them.  It does seem likely that at the very least, the Mexican government siphons off their share of the resources of this country which are sent back home by Mexican citizens illegally in this country.  And if those people are allowed to vote in our elections, they can “improve” the behavior of the U.S. toward Mexico.  So, this statement may or may not be so, but all we (or at least I) can say for sure is it is hyperbole and not helpful.

“they’re not sending their best”.  Ignoring the “sending”, per the last paragraph, it would be hard for an intelligent person to dispute the accuracy of this statement.  Who are “their best”?  Wouldn’t that be the doctors, the engineers, the teachers, the philanthropists, the geniuses, the athletes, the entertainers, the successful?  Those who have the ability and desire to improve their environment and the people around them?  How many of those people have come here illegally?  Are not most of those in this country illegally, the desperately poor, uneducated and unskilled?  Does not being in this country illegally indicate at the very least a tendency and willingness to flaunt the law?

“They’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us.”  As already discussed, this is a generally true statement.  Maybe people with problems are not being SENT, but they certainly are not being effectively prevented from coming here.  And their problems do not vanish when they cross the border.  By the way, “with us”, Donald?  How about “with them” or even “to us”?  Or are you implying something about yourself?  🙂

“They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists”.  Ok, Donald, you need to fire your speech writer.  Or hire one.  SOME ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS bring drugs.  SOME RESORT TO crime, A FEW ARE rapists.  And some have a tendency to drive drunk, and some “game” the system, sucking resources which they are not morally entitled to, and some work to make here more like “home” even though they fled from home.  Basically, if someone is here illegally, it is very likely that they are not interested in improving America, they more likely only interested in getting what they can for themselves.

“and some, I assume, are good people.”  Thanks.for that.  Some are good people, whose primary negative is that they don’t think our laws are worth considering.  Some, provably, are not good people.  I fail to understand why anyone would want to encourage people to come here illegally.  Oh, unless you bemoan the loss of slavery and like paying people low wages and not having them gripe about horrid working conditions.  Or unless you are a politician who understands that your ability to snow the American public is fading, and want to import a new crop of useful idiots to maintain your power.  Or unless you are a compassionate person who is happier with bandaids than with cures; preferring to treat symptoms rather than the disease.

All the people and companies jumping on the Trump, get a grip.  Donald may be an ass, but it is not clear he is a bigoted ass.  Illegal immigration is causing great harm to this country and our government is not only making no effort to prevent it, but is actually supporting it.  To mock Donald for how he says it is fine, but to work to destroy him for what he said, shows you to be at best, an ignorant follower, and at worst, an evil character assassin or someone working to destroy America.  So, NBC, so Macys, which is it?  Are you spineless cowards who cave whenever a few loudmouths make a fuss?  Or do you hate the country which has birthed and nurtured you?